A few words on the Civil War

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/civilwar.html <-- learn something. I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn the full story. The north has only heard the Yankee perspective (even some us in the south too), and what we all learned in school is a revision of history telling us the civil war was only about slavery.

http://www.daveblackonline.com/southern_educators_perpetuate.htm this link has several myths about the south that you may not know. Check it out.

"The real reason Lincoln gave for invading the South was to collect their tariffs, customs and duties (taxes) and to gain economic control of the South. This is not a pretty motive, but it was the true cause of the Northern invasion of the South." http://www.georgiaheritagecoalition.org/site2/commentary/powell-why-they-fought.phtml

The Union Army (northern states) suffered more casualties than the Confederates during the Civil War. Check the links.

New England was the center of the slave trade in the American colonies and was by far the leading slave merchant supplying captive Africans to the South. Read up, http://www.slavenorth.com

Apparently people in the North have no clue but they had slaves too, read about how it was erased from Northern history, http://www.slavenorth.com/denial.htm

President Lincoln insisted that the war was not about slavery or black rights; it was a war to preserve the Union. Most white northerners were not interested in fighting to free slaves or in giving rights to black people. For this reason, the government turned away African American volunteers who rushed to enlist, with the exception of the Union navy. Lincoln upheld the laws barring blacks from the army, proving to northern whites that their race privilege would not be threatened. Some of the black people in the north rejected the idea of fighting to preserve a Union that had rejected them and which did not give them the rights of citizens.

The purpose of the Civil War did not change into a fight against slavery until 1863, two years after the war had already started. This is when the Union allowed the black people into their army, they were also rioted against my some northern whites for taking their jobs.

The north and south both had slaves, it was just properly abolished years before in the north than before the south. Slavery was bad and now it's gone, we both know this (I hope). Especially for those who live in the northern states.

On a side note, the south is the most racially diverse and the most sucessfully desegregated region in the US. The north is still having problems with segregation. 55% of black people live in the south and 19% live in the northeast. http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p20-541.pdf

Everyone knows that slavery was wrong. I'm sure these slave owners in the past were living their life according to the bible and thought they were right by doing so (as were most all civilizations who had slaves), Leviticus 25:44-45

Only because you really want to be. Don't forget bigot, egotistical, maniacal, and rude too! Just look at that website, it is the definition of all of those things.

The fact that the guy made f*ckthesouth.com is proof enough that he is a 100% "Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite". If you search the internet for comments about that site, it's almost entirely Northerners cheering about how true it is, which is just FURTHER PROOF! Stop embarrassing yourselves, it's really pathetic. It's also amazing to see how gullible people are and the sheer stupidity of people posting comments about it.

This is a really good read, http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5652

Jamestown, Virginia was the first settlement. Jamestown was settled in 1607....nearly 13 years before Plymouth.

George Washington, the first US President and Commander of the Continental Army in the American Revolutionary War (without which there would be no United States), was from the south. So were Thomas Jefferson (who wrote the Declaration of Independence) and James Madison too, among many others. Even Abraham Lincoln himself was from the south. The north did not start this country alone, just to say you did is stupidity and arrogance.

Ever notice that the Presidents on the $1, $5, and $20 bills are from the south?

The Second Amendment:
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Militia, definition - An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
"Well regulated" meaning governed by the laws of the land.

It was an unorganized militia that brought down the plane in Pennsylvania on September 11 that prevented it from reaching its target. Waco and Ruby Ridge are examples of regulating gun laws.

There was no vote from the public on legalizing assault weapons, the ten year ban was allowed to lapse. Assault weapons are not in high demand anyway because they're not a big deal. They are guns, and a gun is a gun. Fully automatic weapons are still illegal, and should be.

There are an estimated 750 million guns in the world and one third are in the USA. If anyone tries to invade our country we've got the firepower from ordinary citizens to fight back, thus making the US public a militia without anyone really realizing it.

Also, what monuments are you talking about? Those in DC? Or the ones you put up yourself, or the ones the GOVERNMENT paid for (with tax payers money)? You keep contradicting yourself. Or maybe the Statue of Liberty that was given to the immigration capitol of the US by the French that sits right next to Manhattan that you paid $24 to the Native American Indians for?

Arrogance once again to think that only northerners started this country. You've got a lot of learning to do. Were there only nine stripes? hmmm?

Respect? Do you even know what the other amendments are? You have no idea what you're talking about.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.table.html#amendments

Plymouth Rock, was the site of a great three-day feast between the Pilgrims and Indians in 1621 . But in the strict sense of the holiday, it was not a thanksgiving, but a harvest festival. Learn something new about that harvest feast and the other lesser known first thanksgiving of our land, http://www.georgiaheritagecoalition.org/site2/commentary/first-real-thanksgiving.phtml

"...shall be yearly and perpetually kept holy as a day of thanksgiving..." which was 2 years before Plymouth,
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/cheatham1.html

These are all words I know, but put them together and it's gibberish.

Arrogance has nothing to do with being American. You are making a fool out of yourself and giving the rest of us a bad name. Apparently you are living in a different America.

You forgot to mention the $14.6 billion Big Dig in Boston that is sucking up $8.5 billion in federal funding and the proposed $175 billion Texas super highway that would be financed mostly - if not entirely - by private money.

You are paying for bridges in the south? Get over yourself. You are going to rub your ego raw if you keep on stroking it so much. You guys have to pay loads of more taxes than we do. We'll point fingers and laugh at you about that a little later.... keep reading.

Half a million people move to Florida each year. Can you say that about your state? No? Why not? It's not difficult to figure out why. Tell your neighbors to stop moving to Florida if you hate it so much, don't forget to warn them about the horrors of southern hospitality too.

"During the 1990s, more people moved away from the Northeast than to it from other regions of the country. Between 2002 and 2003, the Midwest (-101,000) and the Northeast (-98,000) both experienced net domestic migration loss of population, while both the South (125,000) and the West (74,000) had net domestic migration gain of population."
http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/p20-549.pdf (page 14, table h)
http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/censr-8.pdf (page 3-4, table2)

The south is also the most generous region in the US. The northeast is at the bottom of the list.

Taken from tva.gov
"Federal funds are no longer available to TVA, and existing legislation specifically identifies the funds other than federal appropriations that TVA is to use for its essential stewardship responsibilities."
"The power program receives no congressional appropriations and is required to make annual payments to the U.S. Treasury in repayment of, and as a return on, the government’s appropriation investment in TVA power facilities."

Tax (Federal, State, Local)
I would like to tell you where our tax money goes here in the south.... in our pockets!

Northern states pay an average of almost double (sometimes triple) the Federal Taxes than do Southern States, mostly because of the high cost of living, salaries required to live there and the progressive tax structure. Northern states also pay more state and local taxes. These include, property taxes, sales and gross receipts, selective sales tax, licenses, and other taxes. These taxes are continuing to skyrocket for the North and have been doing so for quite a while, this contributes to raising the cost of living to the already very high cost of living for the North.

The top five states where the tax burden as a percent of income is the highest are: New York (12.9%), Maine (12.3%), Ohio (11.3%). Hawaii (11.3%), Rhode Island (11.1%). The US average is 10.0%.
http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html

States with higher incomes per capita pay higher federal taxes per capita thanks to the income tax's progressive structure, which increases federal taxes per dollar of federal spending received in return. The people living in these high-income high-tax states do not necessarily live better or save more than people in low-income low-tax states because the cost of living is usually that much higher or more.

Federal Aid
Do you think Florida receives the most Federal Aid because of hurricanes? Think again.

FEMA 2004 disaster declarations, http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters.fema
The single costliest natural disaster was the Northridge earthquake in California, $7 billion, not considered the south. Overall costliest natural disasters are heatwaves/droughts totaling $144 billion, mostly in the midwest not in the south, http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/reports/billion/state2002a.jpg

The south does not receive the most Federal Aid, http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/fas.html

I'm beginning to wonder if this guy did any research at all.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/governments/002939.html
Federal Spending. Californians benefited the most, receiving $220 billion, followed by Texas ($140 billion), New York ($138 billion), Florida ($113 billion) and Pennsylvania ($90 billion). Per capita federal spending among states, meanwhile, was highest in Alaska ($12,244), Virginia ($11,163), Maryland ($10,464), New Mexico ($9,995) and North Dakota ($9,033)

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2003/cb03-ff05se.html
You are cherry picking stats that go in your favor and only partially looking at the facts.

Have you ever wondered why this isn't the big story, why everyone hasn't already heard about this from the media? Did you ever stop to think? Did you look at all the facts? Have you done the math yet? Oh ok, well go ahead and look up the states in question (area, population, salaries, cost-of-living, etc, etc). Done yet?

New Mexico receives more federal dollars than they pay. Don't forget about local/state/federal taxes not being paid on Indian Reservations and illegal immigrants.

We've already covered this, but the reason why you pay more taxes is because your state is screwing you out of your money, and yet you still live there and then act like you're better then everyone else because you live in a state that forces you to pay high taxes. Go blue right? Are you really proud of the fact that you live in a state where you have to pay more taxes than everyone else? It blows my mind. The only thing I owe you is a laugh. Plus the cost of living up there is so high I don't know why anyone would stay. No wonder there are so many ghettos in the north.

Personally, I would make the same amount of money no matter where I live, but by living in the south I can live in a better house in a better neighborhood and still have funds for a better life than if I lived in a northern state, especially the northeast. The cost of living in the south is lower, taxes are lower, and the weather is great. It doesn't get much better in the US.

Is this still about the south, or about the red states? You seem to be getting them confused because not all red states are in the south. You guys hate Canadians too, why don't you bring them into this while you're at it because you are attacking people who have a different belief structure instead of attempting to find out why they believe what they do.

Moral Values
US voters ranked “moral values” as the key issue in choosing their next president. Of those who put “moral values” at the top of their list, 80% voted for Bush. For those who placed jobs and the economy in the top spot, 80% voted for John Kerry. Also, Kerry is a lawyer and most people believe them to be unethical and lacking moral qualities.

This is a good read, http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=21350&pid=1216
"Some Americans believe in God. Some like to pray. And some Americans even like to go to church. And these Americans like to see the same qualities in their president. Maybe Americans were trying to send the message that it's actually OK to have moral values, and it's OK to have a president who is clear about his moral values and who makes decisions based on those moral values."

Marital and Divorce Status
Ding-Ding-Ding, you got something correct. The northeast does have lower divorce rates, and the west has the highest. The northeast also has the highest percentage of people never married.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-30.pdf (page5, table 2)
"People in the Northeast had the highest percentage never married (29 percent) and, correspondingly, had the lowest proportions who were now married (53 percent) and divorced (8 percent). People in the South had the lowest percentage never married (25 percent)."
"The state with the highest percentage never married was New York (32 percent), followed by Massachusetts (31 percent). In contrast, 21 percent of the adult population in Arkansas in 2000 had never been married."

The northeast is tied with the south in separations at 2.5%.

You just think people who go to church are better than you, which makes you feel inferior. We hear on the news just about everyday what goes on in the churches up there, I don't blame you for not going. I'm personally not religious and don't go to church, but the south is the bible belt and many people do, trust me I hear about it often too.

It's funny how you pick one instance from one person and then act like the whole south is in on it. You know for a fact that you are living in a glass house too, I think I would keep my mouth shut from now on if I were you.

Also, do you have receipts for those bridges, stop signs, and federal buildings you keep going on about? ring ring... Hello north, this is the south again, we've got a broken bridge, can we borrow some money? haha! You pay your taxes to the government and the government decides where the money goes. You do have a reason to be upset about taxes, but you should be angry at your state and the government, not the south.

Yes it is over, finally. If that is not the quintessential definition of an arrogant northeastern liberal elitist, I don't know what is.

If the northeast is full of liberal democrats, how come Kerry didn't receive 100% of the votes from those states? Slightly below half of the votes from blue states were for Bush and just under half of the votes from red states were for Kerry. If you are bashing the south and the red states then you are bashing half of the liberal democrat voters for Kerry. Not very smart are you?
http://election.cbsnews.com/election2004/

If you don't like your country... MOVE, simple as that, I would. Canadians dislike the US too, why don't you move there. Here's some stuff you'll need to know before moving,
A Newcomer's Introduction to Canada
passport info

Cheap and quick flights to Canada,
http://expedia.com
http://cheaptickets.com
http://travelocity.com
http://aircanada.ca

Or you could threaten secession again, like you always do. The northeastern states threatened secession in protest of the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 and again when Louisiana applied for statehood. In 1845, when Texas was considered for statehood the New England states again threatened secession. In each instance of New England secession plots the critical issue was always money and political power. http://www.georgiaheritagecoalition.org/site2/commentary/scroggins-secession2004.phtml

Here's a few facts about this page, about both the north and south, and about me:

Nowhere on this page does it say that I am a conservative, a republican, or voted for Bush.
Anytime I defend Republicans, it's for educational purposes because I'm neither Republican nor Democrat.

Did you know that there are more Republicans who voted for Bush in New York, California and Pennsylvania than there are in Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia and South Carolina combined?

States with the highest percentage of Republican voters are out west, not the south.

I feel that discrimination of people from a specific region is just as bad if not worse than racism because you don't care what color or creed the person is, you just prejudge them all regardless.

F*ckthesouth.com is a hate site, SouthernMyths is not.

If you came across a site called F*cktheBlacks (racism) or F*cktheJewish (anti-semitism) would you still think it was ok? Would it just be comedy and you cannot understand why anyone would be upset about it?
Anything slightly negative said about Blacks or Jews is extreme taboo in the US, it will make front page news and these people may be sued. But anti-South hate speech is celebrated?

Here are a few more maps for those that still can't figure out how those red vs. blue maps work.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
some more

The guy who wrote f*ckthesouth is from Wisconsin. That's not even the northeast. He's a career anti-government and anti-establishment protester who helps make lots of hate sites and sells t-shirts on government footsteps.

A lot of people make the south the butt of their jokes, but did you know that only 0.0797% of southerners live in a trailer? And that the state with the highest incidence of incest is in the northwest? Those jokes wouldn't be funny if the south wasn't used though, right? This is a part of Northern oppression that has been going on for about 150 years.
-on a side note: Albert Einstein's parents were cousins and he married one of his cousins. Former NY mayor Rudolf Giuliani was briefly married to his cousin also.
-fact: there is a higher chance of birth defects from a pregnant woman over the age of 40 than there is from relatives inbreeding.

People say the south is poor and is a Republican region. It's a fact that Republicans earn more money than Democrats, so which is it?

In nationwide studies going back to 1972, 45% of Republicans report they are happy, compared to only 30% of Democrats. This may explain why lots of Democrats are such angry people.

I think Matt Stone said it best when he said,
"I hate conservatives, but I really f*cking hate liberals".

You may think I'm crazy but I'm a realist who rejects idealisms and see's things for what they are.

If you haven't figured out yet, I'm not a writer.
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....more to come